37: "The test of time", with special guest Ellen Shapiro

Ellen Shapiro joins John to talk about all sorts of automated testing - unit tests, integration tests, UI test, you name it! The two also discuss Ellen's recent adventures into Kotlin and whether Kotlin Native could become a nice cross-platform solution for mobile apps.

♬ Intro & outro jingles by Dariusz Dziuk.

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38: "Delete derived data in our sleep", with special guest Kristina Fox

36: "Promises everywhere", with special guest Max Howell